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Philosophical question

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:03 pm
by Ellyjelly
I love Kula Shaker's music. I've only been a fan for about a year and a half. Their music really connected with me. The basic themes of love, enlightenment and careing really appealed to me. The music is rocking and thoughtful. What concerns me is I read some statements by Crispin Mills that were of an alt- right wing nature. My dilemna is this : can I believe inthe message of their music? Do they believe in the philosophy of their music or is it a lie? It really matters to me and I want to continue to listen to this music. I realize artists often sing whatever is most successful, but with Kula Shaker I was hoping their subject matter was heartfelt. Thanks.

Re: Philosophical question

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:14 pm
by drykid
I think Crispian's music speaks for itself to be honest. If we're going to discuss stuff that was said in interviews years ago then you'd have to give an example of what you're referring to. In my opinion the most controversial things that he has supposedly said were wildly misquoted by mischievous music journos (and the same thing happened to plenty of other britpop bands also; I could make a long list here.)

Re: Philosophical question

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:41 am
by HemantKohli
You might be referring to the "swastika fiasco". You might know that the Nazi's used swastika as a symbol but much before that it was used by people of many faith and beliefs as a symbol of peace. when literally translated from its Sanskrit root, comprising su meaning 'good' and asti meaning 'to be'. In other words, well-being. One of the oldest symbols made by humans, it dates back some 6,000 years to rock and cave paintings. Scholars generally agree it originated in India.

During an Interview Crispian said something about the swastika referring to the Hindu symbol of "peace and prosperity" the media critisized this and related it to nazism. Meanwhile crispian is influenced by India as we all know.

Re: Philosophical question

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:26 am
by drykid

Also as regards to the suggestion that Crispian is "alt-right"; it's a bit of a bizarre notion to me considering it's a term that has only come into being very recently, and (I assume that) the comments the OP was talking about go back 20 years or so. In terms of where Crispian is at these days this sums it up pretty well:

Well, it’s happening all over the world. The world is having a nervous breakdown, and I really sympathize with people who are exasperated in America, because between Hillary and Donald, there is no choice. There’s no choice. I don’t think so, anyway. But I’ve never personally felt that politics was anything but a necessary evil. I’m much more interested in the spiritual side of things. The spiritual dimension is the only place where life starts to make sense. Without that perspective, it’s all just complete chaos and madness, and I don’t buy it.

(Taken from: ... ian-mills/ )

I think it's interesting to me that Crispian condemns both Trump and Clinton equally; I guess that's an unusual position these days when most people in the "arts" would come down firmly on the side of Clinton. But I think it illustrates well that to him politics itself is part of the problem. To be honest I agree really, politics is something that divides people more than it brings them together. Always has been and always will.